Michlaude Discipleship Project

Pulling the Threads: Full Preterism

Notes (3 of 4)

54. Max R. King, The Spirit of Prophecy, p. 219 ("the release or deliverance of the saints from Israel... was the opening of the graves"); William Bell, "Spatiology or Eschatology?" (on Philippians 4:5, "complete the resurrection already in progress"). Both quoted and catalogued in the source at note 51.

55. Kurt M. Simmons, "The Attack on Full Preterism: Which Death Was Defeated in AD70?", quoted and catalogued in the source at note 51; the Frost quotation within it ("There is no law taking into account our sins") is Simmons's own citation of Sam Frost, not independently verified against Frost's original beyond this secondary source.

56. Don K. Preston, "The Binding of Satan"; Ed Stevens, "Stevens Responds to Gentry"; David Curtis, "Israel of God"; Jessie Mills, Revelation Survey, p. 256 — all cited at AD 70 for Satan's power ending. Dan Harden, quoted without a specific source title in the same archive, arguing the cross alone accounts for it. All quoted and catalogued in the source at note 51.

57. William Bell, "This Present Evil Age"; "New Earth Christian Studies," "God's Promises Fulfilled"; Don K. Preston, "The Passing of the Elements" — all quoted and catalogued in the source at note 51.

58. 2 Corinthians 5:2-4, Paul's own description of the intermediate, pre-resurrection state as "unclothed," genuinely incomplete and undesired as a permanent condition, contrasted with being "clothed" at the resurrection itself.

59. Seam Eleven's population estimate ("the billions") is a rough order-of-magnitude figure based on generally cited historical demographic estimates for global Christian populations from the first century to the present, not a precise or independently verified count; the argument's force rests on the scale being very large and the span being very long, not on the specific figure. An earlier version of this essay said "tens of billions," which overstated it.

60. Luke 24:39-43; John 20:27; Philippians 3:21; Romans 8:11; Romans 8:23; 2 Corinthians 4:14; Matthew 27:52-53 (see also note 13); Job 19:25-26; Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12:2.

61. 1 Corinthians 15:23-26.

62. Revelation 21:1-4.

63. Seam Seven above, scorecard row 1: "Death is spiritual, not physical (the foundational move) | Unchallenged."

64. 2 Timothy 1:10.

65. Isaiah 25:8, quoted at 1 Corinthians 15:54: "he will swallow up death permanently. The Sovereign Lord will wipe away the tears from every face, and remove his people's disgrace from all the earth. Indeed, the Lord has announced it!"

66. 1 Corinthians 15:35.

67. Matthew 26:64 (NET); see also Mark 14:62. Luke 22:69 keeps only the seated half of the saying, also introduced by "from now on."

68. Acts 3:21 (NET).

69. Apostles' Creed and Nicene Creed quoted in the 1988 English Language Liturgical Consultation translation, the common modern ecumenical English text. The Nicene clauses on the resurrection belong to the form of the creed adopted at Constantinople in 381.

70. The Book of Concord (1580) opens with the three ecumenical creeds; the Belgic Confession (Article 9) and the Thirty-Nine Articles (Article 8) name and receive them.

71. 1 John 3:2-3 (NET). The closing parenthesis after "pure" is the NET's own. Its translators treat all of 3:1-3 as a parenthesis within the section, so the parenthesis opens in 3:1, before the portion quoted here.

72. Dennis M. Swanson, "International Preterist Association: Reformation or Retrogression?", The Master's Seminary Journal 15:1 (Spring 2004). Paraphrased from the article's abstract, not quoted.

73. Acts 2:29 and 2:31 (NET).

74. 1 Corinthians 15:4, 15:20, 15:37-38, 15:42, 15:51-53 (NET); John 5:28-29 (NET). The NET translators' notes on 1 Corinthians 15:42 and 15:49 are paraphrased, not quoted.

75. Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 3.11 and 3.32, the latter quoting Hegesippus; Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Second Series, Volume 1. The editor's notes on 3.11 and 3.32 are the source of the two date cautions quoted in this seam's closing paragraph. Trajan's reign (98-117) is from the same edition's note.

76. Irenaeus, Against Heresies 2.22.5 and 3.3.4, Ante-Nicene Fathers translation. Eusebius quotes both passages on John at Ecclesiastical History 3.23.

77. 2 Corinthians 5:4, Acts 3:21, and John 5:28-29 (NET).

78. 1 Timothy 3:16 (NET). The NET translators' note on the verse is paraphrased, not quoted.

79. Brad M. Baker, "Statement of Faith," manifestedsonsofgodad70.wordpress.com (page revised 2026, last modified 8/7/26; retrieved 10/25/26). Points quoted, by article: 16, 17, and 18 (Article II); 22 (Article III); 35 (Article V); 67, 70, and 72 (Article IX); 82 and 84 (Article XI); 96 (Article XIII). Each is quoted exactly as the page words it. The point numbers are the page's own.

80. Brad M. Baker, "Why the Full Preterist IBV-R Worldview is so Convincing," manifestedsonsofgodad70.wordpress.com (Volume 10, Chapter 3; page revised 2026, last modified 8/3/26; retrieved 10/25/26). Every Baker quotation attributed to "his article" or to Baker's "own article," in any seam, comes from this page. The two Seam Seven table rows that the dated note qualifies (rows 3 and 8) are quoted from this page and from note 79. The 1 Corinthians 15:55 wording Baker quotes is the NKJV, as his page labels it.

81. Brad M. Baker, "Did the Apostle John Miss Christ's Second Appearing?", manifestedsonsofgodad70.wordpress.com (page revised 2026, last modified 10/2/26; retrieved 10/25/26). The two Stevens sentences in the Seam Fourteen paragraph ("John was supposed to be sitting on a throne..." and "There is something desperately wrong with that picture") are quoted as Baker's page gives them. Baker supplies no source for them, and they could not be traced to a Stevens publication, so they are not independently verified as Stevens's words. Baker's page does not mention Symeon son of Clopas; the page text was searched for the name on 10/25/26.

82. Edward E. Stevens, Foreword to J. Stuart Russell, The Parousia (Bradford, PA: International Preterist Association), dated July 2003. Read in a PDF reproduction of the foreword (about ten pages, with no printed page numbers) hosted at biertonparticularbaptists.co.uk, retrieved 10/25/26. Quoted from it: "the visible coming of Christ at AD 66-70"; the angels "promised that He would descend visibly 'in like manner' in that same Theophany pattern to only those disciples whom He wished to see it"; the premise that "Christianity is totally discredited if those predictions failed to materialize exactly as they prophesied"; the admission about the time statements and "regardless of whether our credulity is stretched to the breaking point"; the question about why none of those who saw the events of AD 70 said anything; the lines that 1 Corinthians 15 and 1 Thessalonians 4 "state that the resurrection will occur in connection with the 'parousia'" and that "the NT does not distinguish between two different parousias separated by thousands of years"; and the 1 John 3:2 sentence. Stevens's credit to Russell for starting the systematizing of preterism is from the same foreword.

83. On the Papias line about John: the fragment survives only in a fifth-century epitome by Philip of Side (Codex Baroccianus 142), which reports that Papias said John and James were killed by Jews. The translation located is from a blogger's rendering of de Boor's edition, so it is not quoted here. A Scottish Journal of Theology article notes that Philip's reliability "is doubted by many scholars," while arguing the line may be genuine; only a summary of that article was consulted, and the article itself was not reopened for this version. The same set of fragments calls Papias a "hearer of John." A later chronicle text that says John died at Ephesus is marked by its own translator as a probable interpolation and is not relied on. Irenaeus is in note 76. A claim that J. Stuart Russell argued John was taken alive at the Parousia was found only on a reference page marked "citation needed" and was not checked in Russell's book, so the essay does not use it.